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Stopped by the post office(outside of NYC, suburbs) to buy some stamps. There was a young white bearded normal looking guy, about 35 behind the counter.

Me: May I have 20 stamps.

Him: Any ones in particular?

Me: Sure, I’ll take the RBG ones/Bader Ginsburg.

Him: Sure.

Looking for stamps in file cabinet.

Him: Who was she???
 
Not surprising at all. Now, if she was an "influencer" he'd probably have known her
 
My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
 
My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
We toured the new high school here before they opened it. It was impressive, but the library had a section where kids could de-stress by doing puzzles or reading children's books like Goodnight Moon
 
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My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
Is the problem the activities or that someone thinks HS kids need chaperones for these activities? Or both?
 
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Is the problem the activities or that someone thinks HS kids need chaperones for these activities? Or both?
It's the latter. This stuff drives me nuts. Part of HS/college is learning to develop strategies to do things when those resources aren't not around. Additionally. if you give anyone a list of resources, they might start believing they need them. And some might in the end. But, I guarantee they will face much more stressful situations in life than a meaningless HS test. If you told me I could take four steps in HS basketball between dribbles and then someone later on said, oh, it's only two steps, you'd be totally effed in how to navigate that.
 
My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
Minus the chaperones, I think this kind of stuff is offered at virtually every major university in the country during finals, including B.C.
 
It's the latter. This stuff drives me nuts. Part of HS/college is learning to develop strategies to do things when those resources aren't not around. Additionally. if you give anyone a list of resources, they might start believing they need them. And some might in the end. But, I guarantee they will face much more stressful situations in life than a meaningless HS test. If you told me I could take four steps in HS basketball between dribbles and then someone later on said, oh, it's only two steps, you'd be totally effed in how to navigate that.

Can't they just blow off steam during HS exams the way my friends and I did junior year, drag racing down icy suburban residential roads at 11am

That might not be a great idea actually
 
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I'd be more embarrassed asking for those stamps.
Someone called me anti-semantic last night at a dinner. The reason I purchased the stamps; I took a picture texted to the group, “would an anti- Semitic person support RBG ‘s legacy?!?!”
 
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It's the latter. This stuff drives me nuts. Part of HS/college is learning to develop strategies to do things when those resources aren't not around. Additionally. if you give anyone a list of resources, they might start believing they need them. And some might in the end. But, I guarantee they will face much more stressful situations in life than a meaningless HS test. If you told me I could take four steps in HS basketball between dribbles and then someone later on said, oh, it's only two steps, you'd be totally effed in how to navigate that.

This. There is a reason why getting good young candidates is getting harder. Everyone is getting soft (no Lid prom jokes, please).
 
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My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
Who should be embarrassed: The kids or the adults who made the decision to have these as an option?
Playing basketball during finals at BC freshman year was always an awesome distraction for me. Wrangled the key to the Quonset Hut on Newton freshman year and had some epic stress relieving games with floormates during finals.
 
Who should be embarrassed: The kids or the adults who made the decision to have these as an option?
Playing basketball during finals at BC freshman year was always an awesome distraction for me. Wrangled the key to the Quonset Hut on Newton freshman year and had some epic stress relieving games with floormates during finals.
I've probably mentioned this before but I still vividly remember being at some dopey rec little tyke sport for my daughter when she was at the end of kindergarten. I overheard a conversation that was like Game of Thrones with some moms talking about making sure they navigated around this teacher or that one for first grade. My wife (and she's been in education a long time now) and I were like eff that. The soft skills developed, obviously with parent's help at that age, when dealing with every type of teacher or coach are incredibly valuable.
Some combo of my wife's DNA and life lottery made my kids pretty focused students compared to their old man's school based work habits. So, I sort of liked when they would find some type of struggle along the way. Figure it out.
 
Who should be embarrassed: The kids or the adults who made the decision to have these as an option?
Playing basketball during finals at BC freshman year was always an awesome distraction for me. Wrangled the key to the Quonset Hut on Newton freshman year and had some epic stress relieving games with floormates during finals.

If you’re asking me to divide the blame pie, I’m placing the majority of the blame on the helicopter parents who are enabling this behavior - his town has a ton of them. Like, playing basketball - cool have at it.

Therapy dogs?
Playing with play-doh?

C’mon unless someone has a documented and diagnosed mental health problem.

The amount of homework these kids get is much lower than any of us dealt with. My brother says they hardly get any homework. And this is one of the better public school districts in the state.

So, we’ve reduced the workload and coddled them even more. I don’t see how that prepares someone for a far more demanding college curriculum.
 
My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
Today kids are 10 million times more emotionally mature and resilient in a lot of ways but culturally we have adultifed them in so many ways. We have also overscheduled and over intervened. The lack of unorganized play amd the proliferation of social media have also been huge disservice to their development.
 
Sounds like the recent case of the Hingham High school student who was penalized for cutting and pasting AI-generated passages without citing the sources. So his parents sued in federal court. They claimed the school had no official AI policy. He claimed he couldn’t get into MIT because of it.

The federal Judge dismissed the case. First example he used: The student didn’t even bother to check the sources that ChatGPT referred to, which was a non-existent book.
 
Sounds like the recent case of the Hingham High school student who was penalized for cutting and pasting AI-generated passages without citing the sources. So his parents sued in federal court. They claimed the school had no official AI policy. He claimed he couldn’t get into MIT because of it.

The federal Judge dismissed the case. First example he used: The student didn’t even bother to check the sources that ChatGPT referred to, which was a non-existent book.
These parents are a joke. Plagiarism is pretty black and white, taking someone else’s work/ideas and passing off as one’s own. It’s sad taxpayers money was wasted on this bulllsh7t.
 
Today kids are 10 million times more emotionally mature and resilient in a lot of ways but culturally we have adultifed them in so many ways. We have also overscheduled and over intervened. The lack of unorganized play amd the proliferation of social media have also been huge disservice to their development.
They have to deal with 10 million more variables. That's for sure. At the end of the day, parenting still matters. It's how many you pick and choose to swat out of the way. And how many you choose to let them process and handle. We can blame the adults as a whole and that is no doubt part of the problem. Kids in 1925 had 100 very hard things to handle. If you helped them with none of them or swatted away 100 of them, you weren't doing them any favors. Now that kids have a million things to handle but, generally, smaller in scale, it's the same issue.
In many ways it is easier and harder to parent. Your kid wasn't coming home from school one day with a fever and then maybe he dies because it's just one of those tragic things we didn't have an answer for. That's terrifying. A million is just a million conversations you can choose to have or not. When people say all kids do know is sit staring at their phones, you can still say get your ass off the phone as a parent. Go take your brother to the courts and shoot around. It's nice out. By the way, it's not like my wife or I are perfect. I've had a teenage daughter. I have teenage boys. Some times, it's just easier to not stir the hornet's nest while there is peace and quiet in the house. But, again, it's a choice. Not some society issue that's impossible.
I think (maybe hope) that it allows kids to separate easier from peers once they start getting into the job market. If they have the tools. A kid that was given all those emotional support tools that maybe they didn't need in HS will probably be SOL when they start a high stress job. 100 guys coming back from WW2 and entering the job market weren't going to lose their sh*t because their boss wasn't like their 5th grade reading teacher.
 
If you’re asking me to divide the blame pie, I’m placing the majority of the blame on the helicopter parents who are enabling this behavior - his town has a ton of them. Like, playing basketball - cool have at it.

Therapy dogs?
Playing with play-doh?

C’mon unless someone has a documented and diagnosed mental health problem.

The amount of homework these kids get is much lower than any of us dealt with. My brother says they hardly get any homework. And this is one of the better public school districts in the state.

So, we’ve reduced the workload and coddled them even more. I don’t see how that prepares someone for a far more demanding college curriculum.

I mean dogs are awesome, just bring in some dogs to hang out with the kids most of whom are probably missing their pets back home anyway, they just don't need to ghey it up by calling them "therapy dogs"
 
My brother’s kid is a frosh in high school in NJ. He sent me an email that he received looking for parents to chaperone the following activities designed to help students in his high school to deal with midterm stress in between tests:

Play with therapy dogs
Watch tv shows
Play with Play-doh
Coloring
Play basketball

Again, these are high school kids.
Name the high school.
 
I will allow no Westfield slander...unless you are talking about New Jersey, then have at it.
 
I will allow no Westfield slander...unless you are talking about New Jersey, then have at it.
It is NJ. The Westfield/Chatham chatter reinforces the ambiguity. Chatham sports are pretty weak.
 
This is incredible. But, again, it creates opportunity for anyone willing to get after it.
 
I know. What do we want to do here? Enjoy our lives? Sorry, this isn’t Europe.
You can definitely look at it in a few ways. Many of us know one or two guys who are content to do just that. And they are comfortable with maybe having less or whatever. A friend of mine is still bartending and surfing all the time. That's what he wants. We only get one of these lives so go make yourself happy.
But, if you are going to get into your 30s and 40s and complain about your school loans or not having enough for a down payment on a house or the cost of whatever, I don't have time for your bitching if you also wanted 32 hour work weeks. Life is about trade offs. It's not supposed to be easy all the time. I knew 20+ years down the road, I would want to post about advanced analytics on a message board. And defend un-defendable coaches. So, I basically took my 20s/early 30s and worked my nuts off. And dealt with some bosses that literally would email me where I was at 9pm at night if I wasn't at my desk or in a meeting even though those sons of bitches made me get there for 8am kick off meetings.
I am totally fine with sanding down the edges of that. I don't romanticize about it. It sucked and there is a better way to do it. There is a middle ground. If you work your ass off and have trouble with student debt or down payments, let's have that conversation as a country. But, man, the attitude in that letter is something else. Because those same people will be complaining about whatever they face next.
 
You can definitely look at it in a few ways. Many of us know one or two guys who are content to do just that. And they are comfortable with maybe having less or whatever. A friend of mine is still bartending and surfing all the time. That's what he wants. We only get one of these lives so go make yourself happy.
But, if you are going to get into your 30s and 40s and complain about your school loans or not having enough for a down payment on a house or the cost of whatever, I don't have time for your bitching if you also wanted 32 hour work weeks. Life is about trade offs. It's not supposed to be easy all the time. I knew 20+ years down the road, I would want to post about advanced analytics on a message board. And defend un-defendable coaches. So, I basically took my 20s/early 30s and worked my nuts off. And dealt with some bosses that literally would email me where I was at 9pm at night if I wasn't at my desk or in a meeting even though those sons of bitches made me get there for 8am kick off meetings.
I am totally fine with sanding down the edges of that. I don't romanticize about it. It sucked and there is a better way to do it. There is a middle ground. If you work your ass off and have trouble with student debt or down payments, let's have that conversation as a country. But, man, the attitude in that letter is something else. Because those same people will be complaining about whatever they face next.

Perhaps we should let government workers play with play-doh during scheduled breaks?
 
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